John in Oz
Well-Known Member
Just as a point of interest you could always go Propane like I have on my rod and have seen on others over there, The only problem I might see is the distance between filling stations for you guys.
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I have a 1975 305 ci out of a Montecarlo in my 28 Model A and am running a PVC only, hope mine passes or I will go backwards and put a flattie in it.
Danno, I understand what you're saying about vehicles that were originally equipped with certain emission control devices must keep those devices on the vehicle, and also that if you install a newer engine in an older car, that you must keep the emission controls for the newer engine. I used to be a Drive Clean inspector years ago. I have several newer cars, that I've modified, and even though sometimes its been a headache, I've kept all of the required emission controls on the cars, because I don't want to be fined for taking stuff off that is supposed to be there.
Where I'm a bit confused, is that I know that the law USED to be worded in such a way that if you built a vehicle, or swapped an engine, and it was done prior to the year 2000, or the engine was manufactured prior to the year 2000, that the vehicle only had to comply with 1980 emission standards. Do you know if those rules have been changed recently? Part of the point that I'd like to make here is that there are probably a number of "crate" engines that were manufactured a number of years ago, that have been sitting in a warehouse somewhere, and have not been sold up until recently. I know that Frank probably got one of the very last GM 3.4 V6 "crate" engines
that was left anywhere. Were these engines built using old casting molds? What identifying marks are on them? How are the MOE people supposed to know exactly when these engines were manufactured? Does the MOE have any data that shows when crate engines were manufactured? I know that in the case of older GM engines, you can identify them using both casting and stamping numbers, and in most cases, you can tell what kind of vehicle that the engine was originally installed in, and what type(s) of emission controls were originally installed in the original vehicle (I've seen a listing like that for Chevrolet engines), but how is the MOE supposed to know information like that for crate engines? That's where I have a problem with the whole "date of manufacture" for crate engines issue.
Sorry for the long post, but any insights on this would be appreciated, thanks.
If I understand this correctly, the MOE are using the casting number from a GM block to determine the vintage of the engine and what emission equipment it should have. What happens if you grind the casting numbers off?
Just as a point of interest you could always go Propane like I have on my rod and have seen on others over there, The only problem I might see is the distance between filling stations for you guys.
chances are if you start grinding stuff off your block they will inpound your car and charge you with posession of stolen property. you might get the car back in a year or two minus the motor and hack job they did removeing it plus 15 to 20 grand lawyer cost or roll the dice pay a 500 to 1000 doller fine get a criminal record and hope they dont come at you again because 2nd offence is staight to jail .more then likely grabing your house and any thing eles they can sell under the proceeds of crime laws.By the way they dont need any real proof at the end of the day it dosent cost them a cent infact ther getting paid. and no one cares that they just wasted a million in tax dollars because ther all belled up to the same trough. hay if you dont believe me try it and let us know how ya made out.