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Kustomshoebox
04-28-2008, 01:59 AM
this one I just found on hotrod.com:

Ron Main's Flatfire V-8
At age 65, Ron Main describes himself as a "recycled teenager" and "juvenile delinquent." And at some point along his life's journey as a hot rodder, his mental phonograph needle became stuck on the Ford flathead V-8. Specifically, he was captured by the dream of building the world's fastest flathead. "Everyone was always building flatheads just the way their daddy did," says Main. "We wanted to go faster than daddy did." And that he did, running just over 302 mph at Bonneville in his Flatfire streamliner.

"This is a 21st century flathead," says Main. While still housed in an original '46 Ford 59AB block with three main bearings, the engine was almost totally re-engineered by Mike Landy and the late Dick Landy of Dick Landy Industries. Main's 301ci flathead employs "reverse-flow" breathing-the intake ports are now the exhausts and vice versa. Also, the block has been machined so that the exhaust ports exit through the top of the engine, another exotic hot-rodding trick found in maximum-effort flatmotors. A Moldex crank with Chevy rod journals rides in steel billet main caps fabricated by DLI, while Ernie Cross of Ventura Speed & Marine fabricated the intercooler and Motec-based digital port fuel injection system. Tony Barron aluminum heads have been machined for custom combustion chambers and two spark plugs per cylinder.

Main originally considered a turbocharger, but "they build too much heat," he says. Instead, a V-1 T-trim Vortech centrifugal supercharger was selected that produces 18 psi of boost. On its standard dose of straight methanol the engine has shown over 700 hp on the dyno, but they like to keep it down around 650 hp in the interest of keeping the block in one piece. Main says that with the flathead's traditional breathing problems corrected, the engine was now happily zinging to 7,000 rpm on the dyno. However, with the gearing used on the Bonneville record run the engine was showing 5,600 rpm at 302 mph through the speed trap. So why a flathead? "Because," says the world's oldest adolescent, "the flathead is just such a pretty little motor."

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/kustomshoebox/flatheads/hrdp_0706_12_z10_historic_hot_rod_e.jpg

Kustomshoebox
04-28-2008, 02:01 AM
Another neat looking one
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/Pics/fordflathead.jpg

Cword
04-28-2008, 10:45 AM
this one I just found on hotrod.com:

Ron Main's Flatfire V-8


It's been replaced by an Ecotech
:(

bullet
04-28-2008, 06:17 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/bulletnose/WorldsFastestFlathead.jpg

Digger_Dave
04-29-2008, 04:00 PM
The history behind the "World's Fastest Flat Head" has a bit of a strange story.

Quoted from the article ...

"This is a 21st century flathead," says Main. While still housed in an original '46 Ford 59AB block with three main bearings, the engine was almost totally re-engineered by Mike Landy and the late Dick Landy of Dick Landy Industries.

Main's 301ci flathead employs "reverse-flow" breathing-the intake ports are now the exhausts and vice versa. Also, the block has been machined so that the exhaust ports exit through the top of the engine."

When I was at Bonneville in 2000, I was hanging around "Flatfire's" pit area. The streamliner had just finished a 286.+ MPH run BUT at the cost of an engine!
That year the team was carrying TWO complete engines. One - the one that had just blown a hole out the side of the block - had a slightly different Turbo set-up on it. The pit crew was feverishly working at changing to #2 engine.

The crew of "Flatfire" had the most complete machine shop trailer, welding equipment, a mill, a lathe and a whole host of other tools; and #1 engine was being torn down to the bare block so the damage could be repaired.

Dick Landy was a bit upset that the #1 engine didn't break the 300 MPH mark.
(he kept moving between me and the #2 engine sitting on the ground waiting to be installed; almost as if he didn't want anyone to see what the engine was equipped with!)

I was almost ready to turn away and go looking at some other cars, when a voice behind me said,
"Don't mind Dick, he's just P.Oed about blowing up $175,000.00 worth of engine."
Turning to see who was speaking to me, I was surprised to see Ron Mains.
He then said, "You look like you could use a cool drink." "Come on inside the motor home.

We got to chatting about how he, Mike and Dick had come to build "Flatfire" - The Worlds Fastest Flat Head - Single Engine - Streamliner.

Ron pointed to a small frame on the wall that contained two $1 bills.
He said, "This whole project started over a bet - $1 - that nobody could make a flat head powered - single engine - streamliner that could break the 300 MPH mark!"

Ron is a long time lover of flat heads, but never thought 300 MPH was possible. Landy took the "bait!"

The amount of time, wind tunnel testing and engine development, turned into a five year project.
(Dick lived long enough to see the car go 300 MPH)

CDNflatlander
04-30-2008, 01:44 AM
Cool. thanks for sharing Dave!
Increadible looking engines.......What a bet:D
Greg.

bullet
04-30-2008, 12:39 PM
Great story, thanks Dave.

Digger_Dave
04-30-2008, 01:47 PM
It's been replaced by an Ecotech
:(

As Mike says, the "Flatfire" chassis and body now "sports" an Ecotech engine from GM. It can be seen at Bonneville, still "making passes."

After setting what was a seeming impossible record with the flat head engine; a deal was made with GM to use the car for testing the "Ecoech" series engines.

Someone once "quipped", "If I told you how much money had been invested in the "Flatfire" chassis and body; I'd have to KILL you!" So the chassis and body lives on!

Ron Mains was satisfied that they had set the "bar" high enough (MPH) for a flat head engine, that they would now turn to other projects.

Digger_Dave
05-02-2008, 02:43 PM
As noted above, The GM Ecotec powered "Flatfire" is being tuned for more runs this year. (2008)

Quoted from the "Ecotec" website ...

"The fastest Ecotec on the Salt Flats is likely to be Ron Main’s original "Flatfire"; now called the "EcoFire streamliner."

With enclosed wheels and a low-drag body design, this pencil-thin missile set the XF/BFS (Blown Fuel Streamliner) class record with an old-school 600-horsepower flathead engine at 302.674 mph.

Now equipped with a thoroughly modern Ecotec engine, Main’s streamliner has the potential to annihilate the current 258.882 mph record in the G/BFS class."

Old race cars never die; they just go FASTER! ;)