high gas prices

[ss34coupe]

well, the rumours are true, the price of gas is going up and up - its at 129.9 a litre in Victoria - may hit a buck fifty by summer we're told. Is it just my imagination, or have I been noticing a lot of V8 powered collector cars for sale here lately - a lot more than usual - particularly cars from the 60's and 70's. It may be that the rising cost of gas is going to make a lot of people think about selling their pride and joy - a sad state of affairs for all of us.
What have you guys noticed - more stuff for sale in your area too?

[PeterB]

ss34coupe, Did you read the paper today?? They say by 2012 it will be about 2.25 a litre. And that this summer up to a 1.55 Was in a line up at the pump today 1.27 go figure.

Cheers
PeterB

[johnny37]

Media makes the price of gas a self fulfilling prophecy. They say "gas couldhit 1.50/litre." Then by the time it does, we've heard it for so long that we just accept it. We're a bunch of sheep sometimes. I'm lucky, I live close enough to the border that I can go down there for fuel. It works out to about $.98/litre in Lynden.

Yeah, gas prices suck, but its still cheaper than going to the bar.

[gmccruzr]

there are cases even last summer where some muscle cars didn't hit the street because of the price of fuel. From what I'm seeing around here there is a growing trend to build older small cars such as Gremlins, Pacers, Pintos , vegas, and even chevettes at least with the smaller cars they would still be older rides but easier on fuel.
One has to wonder the government wants to promote tourism across the country, but with the cost of fuel so high who can aford to go on a driving trip. If they would just realize that if the price of fuel was kept at a decent price then more people would drive to different places for a holiday. If people in the provinces can figure this out why can't the government?
How high must the price of fuel go before the government decides to put a cap on it?

[Ford_Fellow]

It is scary when you look at how everything is affected by the price of fuel....First you are very irritated and then you take a look at how much traffic is on the roadways.....The amount of driveing being done every day with people commuteing to work and big airplanes flying every where and all of the ships and trucks and trains and equipment that is running on fuel's...Then you throw in the heating fuels and electricty for power....It is a mega situation the amout of fuel being burned every second.....I know even myself the difference from where I burned wood to being hooked up to natural gas and that if you did not stoke the fire the house got cold so you paid more attention to keepin the fire burning and the word's a cord of wood meant something....I is thinkin back and just maybe there is a lot that we have started to take for granted......Yup it has me thinkin.............and thinkin.........Nuff of that.....Pay the bill........May have to go shoppin for a new chainsaw...........

Hugh.............

[clean8485]

I work at an RV dealership, and so far this year, business seems to be at least as good as last year. Mind you we're not quite into the busiest part of the season just yet. The dealership has a fairly large fleet of rental motorhomes, and we do a fair amount of business with customers who come from overseas (mainly Europe), where fuel is even more expensive, so it will be interesting to see how the price of fuel here affects the rental business, as well as the sales side. I know that I probably won't be driving my hobby car as much this year because of the price of fuel. I'll just have to squeeze in as much enjoyment as possible when I do drive it. I may look more seriously at putting together a more fuel efficient hobby vehicle.

[bgbdlinc]

...with the worldwide price of oil going higher and higher (eventhough we are sitting on the Athabaska tar sands) the governments won't do anything to control the price of gas. This is because the gas taxes (federal/provincial) are geared as a % of the sale of every litre....in other words, why should they turn off the spiggott and stop the sunami (sp?) flow of money into their general revenue coffers? Just ain't going to happen.....
Re: '60's/'70's cars for sale....it may have to do with the price of gas (although that is tough to justify after you've spent $20K fixing up your childhood dream). From what I can see (at least in Southern Ontario) the manufacturing industry is in a tail-spin along with the general economic downturn....and it is going to get worse....much worse...lots of people are selling unfinished projects, as well as, classic cars, antiques, special interest cars/trucks.....we're in for a rough ride......

[54_f100]

Well I think I need to be admitted, just purchased a 1984 35ft Wanderlodge in San Diego, got 7-8 MP american gal driving home, oh well only $1800.00 to fill it up.

[49stovebolt]

Here is Kamloops gas went up yesterday to 132.9 per litre. My 97 Chevy P/U is getting a tad bit costly to run. Over $85 to top it off from half a tank. Ouch.....

I am sure it makes people think twice before heading out for a cruize.:eek:

I guess there the big oil companies are trying to stifle the economy by taking the money out of all our pockets so they can reap the big profits. If they keep it up they may put the country into a resession like the US.

I haven't seen the trend here in the interior to sell off the projects but I have seen more and more pickups for sale. There seems to be more diesels and 6.0 L's for sale in the local buy/sell lately.

[teenwith38chevy]

wow can u bring the cheap gas price here (1.28 ) it is close to 1.33 here (nova scotia)

[..77.]

I have an 01 g cherokee with 4.7 and a 94 G Cherokee with a 4.0 . The newer one is the Ol lady,s , takes her 20 mins to drive to work , the older one , is mine , takes me 10 mins to drive to work . I imagine if,n I had to commute I,d switch us too Honduh crv,s . But I need something heavy enuff to pull my cars , mid sizes around 3000 to 3500 pounds , on a trailer .
I think we only spend about 40 bucks a week fuel each . I realize fuel is like a un renewable resource . But cant we come up with something else .
I,ve even heard that bio diesel , burns better , but isnt as efficient in the long run to produce .
makes me think of that old B movie with lee majors and the old trainer from the rocky movies . About when cars have been banned and Majors has an old F 1 style car he goes out an drive at night . Burgess Meredith was the trainers name ..77.

[gmccruzr]

seen that movie the other day on the drivein channel (vintage movie channel) watched THE ROAD WARRIOR another gas shortage movie.

[bullet]

Were not having a Merry Time in the Maritimes, $1.33.6 / litre, this weekend.
Mind you I saved a piss pot on heating oil this winter. Didn't even burn a 1/4 tank, rather I went through 10 cord a hardwood, which cost $600 in 8' lengths, had it delivered for $200, cut and split for $20. a cord, total $1000.

[ss34coupe]

So if high gas prices are here to stay, and it looks that way, the question is: will you be looking to unload your V8 powered car? I know I will not, although it might not get used as much. Am building two other V8 powered cars, because to me a rod should have a V8. Have to admit though, that I have thought about building a Model T or A with 4 cylinder running gear from an S10 pickup, including the 5 speed trans. Maybe down the road that is what we will do more and more, build fuel efficient rods. But for now, I'm in favour of toughing it out with the V8 motor rumbling down the freeway.

[Ford_Fellow]

Today I put insurance on me nineteen plus feet land yaught.....It runs on prophane and the price of prophane was either fifty thee or fifty seven cents a liter which was the decideing factor on whether Roo's T Bird or me luxury ride....

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[gmccruzr]

fuel here today is $1.22 a liter. See where GM is trying to get to market a car that is battery pwered but has a gas engine aboard to charge it back up when the battery gets below a certain charge the battery is t-shaped and fits under the rear seats and center tunnel

[Merc50]

Got this in an email today, kind of makes sense, but getting the hordes to do it is near impossible I think

In case anyone has forgotten, BUYERS control the marketplace... not SELLERS.
THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $.90 PER Litre....hopefully
Not that this idea needs credentials; however, this was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive and his engineer buddy who retired from Halliburton ( they really can't come up with this stuff while they are still working )
If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this, PLEASE.
Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy gas on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May! It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance !
I hear we are going to hit close to $ 2.00 a litre by next summer and it might go higher. Want gasoline prices to come down ?
We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to 'hurt' ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read on and join in !
By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.00 is super cheap. Me too ! It is currently $1.27 for regular unleaded where I live ( New Westminster BC ).
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.14, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that the BUYERS control the marketplace...Not the SELLERS.
With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.
The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But, we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all a ct together to force a price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, starting with your next fill-up, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies, ESSO and Shell.
If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and Shell gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more . . 3000, and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers. If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted !
If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE !
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!
How long would all that take? 300 million people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days !
With the aid of the internet, we have this much potential. Acting together we can make a difference.
If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. THEY CAN LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW THE $1.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

[stovbolt]

I'm doing my part allready not buying any fuel products from either oif those places but still see lots of people doing so!!

[bullet]

Boycotting the big stations has been said many times before. Problem is, try and get the entire country on the same page to do that.

As for electric cars, why don't they place an alternator on each wheel, so when you go down the road, it recharges the batteries. I know they would place drag on the forward momentum of the car but I'm sure they could figure out how to overcome that. The car would need charged batteries to get the vehicle in motion but once the vehicle was moving, it would be able to go all day replenishing the batteries as it went, thus having a full charge the following day to once again get moving. Just a thought.

Perhaps there's a crucial reason why they haven't done this yet. Anyone see any cons about this idea ?

[Ford_Fellow]

The problem is it takes as much power to produce electricity as it produce's.

Hugh.....................

[Jeff Norwell]

Me and my hemis are in trouble!!

[Ford_Fellow]

Trouble.....Just got out of it and have found new trouble and am positive that there is trouble that I can find before this day is half over............If I was brave and realey stupid I would go wake up the boss......Now that would be cranky trouble......
Hugh............

[CDNflatlander]

77, The Last Chase.
Bullet, for many years I have thought (without the proper degrees') about electric cars for daily drivers. Your alternator idea was kinda where I was at as well.....however, the 'heavy' thought just recently was how were you going to produce enough heat to keep the windhield clear! The other sobering thought can be compared to you taking your digital camera outside for some 'cool' clicks.....how many less pictures do you get in the cold weather, = how many less KM's?
As for Bio fuels, I too was very surprised the other night when there was a program on the tube discussing how much 'power' it took to make the bio fuel!! Now my diesel truck has a fuel grade expectation from the factory, MUST be 'preimum'......or no warrenty.

This gets us back to C-words commuter; I like it, but not even close to practical for my daily.
Greg

[Old Fart]

In appreciation of Cword's probable condition but taking into account the terrain where he lives, I wonder how he'd fare with a 64K (round trip) from the hills here in Iron Mountain to uptown PoCo????

Cycling is one activity I've always loved but to geti nto it now, with my sciatic condition (and the hills), 'other' methods of transportation MUST be considered, at least for me.

One OBVIOUS solution (at least for me) is to sell the estate and move closer to work and then RETIRE. That would knock my trucks fuel consumption down from 4 1/2 tanks/month (average) to one per month.

I could then use my 1964 Schwinn tri-speed as a grocery getter too :o

[bgbdlinc]

...this basic info my be appropriate for some users....
http://www.cars.rasoenterprises.com/Propane-Conversions.htm

[Cword]

In appreciation of Cword's probable condition but taking into account the terrain where he lives, I wonder how he'd fare with a 64K (round trip) from the hills here in Iron Mountain to uptown PoCo????

My current round trip is roughly 25k, except for Tuesdays when I ride a loop through downtown and get up to roughly 30k.
If I was going to ride a 65 k round trip, I'd have to give up my gym time in the morning. Right now I push weights for half an hour or run 5 k when I get to work, if I doubled the travel time I'd have to give that up.
I've got a few friends that have round trips in the 60k range. It's doable but is definitely more work. A ride like that would have me looking at serious roadie gear.
Hills just make you stronger, I don't currently have anything huge to ride up though. Crossing the Bow River going to and from work doe's give me a couple k of climbing to do each way but other than that most of my route is fairly flat.

Mike

[sqhd]

OK, here's an eye opener, I've got two "B" train trucks hauling wood chips/sawdust/hog fuel. Last month one used over 9000 liters and the other was a little better at 3000. Gives a little perspective of how much is being used world wide. We've got to find an alternative to petroleum. Hopefully, before we run out.

Carl

[UGLEE 33]

yep I burn,t up 10270 $ worth last month to carl. uuuuggggg

[wrascal]

I was talking to my bank manager a few weeks ago..... shooting the breeze mostly and he said that he has several customers that are oil drillers. They drill and find oil, then just cap them for "future" use. I think this shortage is man made to increase profits. The government is never going to say anything as most of the price is taxes that both the federal and provincial governments rake it in...........the more they charge, the more they profit from it.............. talk about payoffs.

Russ:eek:

[John in Oz]

They are talking that the price of gasoline will be over $1.50/ltr here by the end of the month. The crazy thing is deisel when I stopped driving the truck was around$1.57/ltr, now explain how that product should be that price as opposed to Gasoline.

We went away on the weekend in the roadster and that is a dedicated Propane BBC car and the price of that gas was .71c/ltr. It wasn't even 2 years ago when John Howard our them P.M. said the price of L.P.G (propane) would never go over .32c/ltr, when he got kicked out of power it was .67c/ltr then.

I was talking to an old timer at the party on the weekend and he is making his own deisel fuel, he gets the old cooking oil from the fish and chip shops (who normally have to pay someone to take it away) and cleans it and adds a couple of things and has been running his small truck on that stuff for years now and said it is real good and hasn't given any bad feelings to the engine at all, he can do all sorts of things with fuels, he even makes his own gas for his and his wifes road cars as well and he quoted some real cheap prices at making it to. When he told me how much he had stored I near feel over, my coment was sh*t man you better not let the council know how much you have stored there. His coment was or the revenue man with a smile. But like he said a long trip and a couple of weeks running soon knocks his stocks down and doesn't he love running methonal in another one of his cars as well, he is building an engine for one of his Mini's to run on it, funny old bugger doesn't care about how much he has and his neighbours are far enough away if there was a fire it wouldn't worry them. If he did have a problem the insurance company would wipe him like a rag on a dip stick.

In New Zealand my son tells me they are saying it will top $2/ltr very soon.

Just keep driving your rods and step the rear end ratios up and you'll be right after all most Rods weigh next to nothing and can handle tall gears. With the 33 I went up the Black Butt mountain range the other day and didn't even know we were going up a hill. So maybe gearing is something some of you guys might need to look into, funny eh a couple of years ago everyone wanted low gears, I can see a day when everyone will be running tall gears again.

Cheers, John

[Cookie]

Hi guys ,Its just went to £5.00 a gallon here in Belfast ,more for diesel !
It sort of makes you think about putting a car on the road that may only get around 18- 19 mpg ,its getting to be a rich mans pastime ,its getting tough all over .

[got_an_anglia]

As for the shortage the U.S. goverment has a 30 year oil reserve, in case of some such so called shortage happens. That reserve is enough to fuel the whole country (u.s.) for 30 years! They say that when fuel was at a $1.00 the govt was making $0.68 a litre! that means RIGHT NOW from the boys here in ptp land at $1.29 the gov't is making 81.6 cents a litre!. I learned when i was in school that from cigarrette taxes alone in one year, that the goverment makes enough money to pave every major highway in canada 8 times over! so what do they make off of fuels? On the hind end of things I was at the store this morning and a litre of dasani water is $1.49 so fuel is cheap compared to water wtf!

[Fatchuk]

Well I won't be putting plates on my cars this year...between Ins and fuel costs..I will be sitting this year out from cruizin...just to rich for my wallet..looks like the family van will be my Sunday cruiser this year

[bullet]

Hi guys ,Its just went to £5.00 a gallon here in Belfast ,more for diesel !
It sort of makes you think about putting a car on the road that may only get around 18- 19 mpg ,its getting to be a rich mans pastime ,its getting tough all over .

In my estimation that's $10.04 cdn. / gal. or approx. $2.50 / litre. YIKES ! ! !

As for water being more then gas right now. It'll soon be a world commodity to be traded on the stock market. The US wants to siphon the Great Lakes, can you imagine the hornets nest that's going to stir up. There's only one Great Lake ( Michigan ) that's totally within the US border, the catch is, it's connected to all the others.

[wrascal]

I hope that is an imperial gallon and not the smaller US gallon. :eek: Yikes, we are starting to catch up!

Russ